Another destructive aspect of promiscuity

There is an interesting discussion at The Thinking Housewife regarding the economics of promiscuity and marriage. Specifically, a man has commented that although he used to be socially conservative, he eventually became disillusioned with his principles after seeing the sexual immorality of others — and the implications of that immorality on his own marital prospects:

As I’ve intimated before I grew up in very conservative Christian environs, and was fully invested in that life until my mid-twenties. Over the course of time I saw church-going girls from solid, middle-class familes having children by young males from outside that environment. Of course these men, to stretch the term, were entirely unsuitable for either fatherhood or husbandry, so the girls ended up raising their children in their parents’ homes, often with no child support. I realized, as would any man with an IQ above room temperature, that each instance of this occurrance meant that one man out there in society would not get married, unless he consented to raise a stranger’s child.

Men clearly have an aversion to this.

When I have addressed this problem to older conservative Christians I have meet met with complete indifference, if not ridicule. Basically, “buck up, soldier, now fight the culture war”.

I find his point about single moms’ impact on the mating market rather interesting. Whereas you would normally expect social immorality to corrupt both sexes about equally — such that the balance of the marriagible individuals remained relatively undisturbed, even if the virtuous people were fewer in number — here this man is pointing out that women are actually taking themselves out of the market altogether. He is, of course, correct that most men will stay away from single mothers. Thus, what we basically have is a situation similar to China, where there are no longer enough women to go around!

Obviously, this problem does not excuse any individual man for failing to find some babe to marry through his individual efforts. But as a sociological phenomenon, the trend will surely be destructive.

What we can also see from this analysis is the classic truth that men have a significant interest in helping safeguard the moral purity of women. And when we see men getting excited about the possibility of promiscuity, we can automatically know that they are fools. Marriage is a remnant of the patriarchal system, and one that men are foolish to undermine merely for short-term pleasure.

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7 Responses to “Another destructive aspect of promiscuity”


  1. 1 Ilíon August 12, 2010 at 11:50 am

    ‘Asher’ is just rationalizing his choice to be promiscuous.

    What we can also see from this analysis is the classic truth that men have a significant interest in helping safeguard the moral purity of women.

    Like most of the “men’s rights movement” whingers I’ve read (admittedly, I don’t seek them out), ‘Asher’ wants it both ways; he wants to be promiscuous and he wants there still to be “good women” for when he’s finally ready to “settle down.” He wants to be immortal and to use women immorally, and he wants a secret stash of “pure women” hidden away waiting to be revealed when he’s ready to kind-of commit to one woman.

  2. 2 Drew August 12, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    When a society is wicked, it makes it harder to live righteously. The social macroanalysis doesn’t justify immorality, but it does give some reason to give in to the temptation. So I certainly understand the man’s point. The man’s bad character does not invalidate his initial analysis.

    I think the men’s rights movement has two wings, a left wing and a moral wing. If you paruse their blogs, you can see that some of them actively advocate promiscuity (justifying it with the pragmatic argument I just describd), whereas the others are more idealistic.

  3. 3 Ilíon August 12, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    When a society is wicked, it makes it harder to live righteously. The social macroanalysis doesn’t justify immorality, but it does give some reason to give in to the temptation. …

    No, it doesn’t give a reason to engage in wickedness. What it does is explain the excuse some will try to use as justification for their choice to be wicked.

    Someone whose attitude is “I’m not even going to try to avoid wickedness unless everyone around me does likewise” was never serious about avoiding wickedness in the first place.

  4. 4 Wintery Knight August 21, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    Drew, what did you think of the comments from the other people in the thread that basically dismissed his concerns with a sanctimonious attitude, calling him a weakling and a whiner?

  5. 5 Drew August 21, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    I just think they were missing the greater point. It is of course true that God holds us accountable for wrongdoing despite our temptations (although I suspect he is probably more lenient in cases of severe temptation). But the Bible (e.g., Daniel, Jesus) and common sense both make it plain that living righteously in an evil society is harder than living righteously in a heavenly society.

    I think women have trouble understanding the man’s dilemma with single moms in today’s whorish world. But women should consider how much their life would suck if a good portion of society’s men were deciding to cut off their left arms. Most women would prefer not to marry a one-armed man, and once the arm is cut off then it will not grow back. Simply because some men might choose to retain both arms does not change the fact that the supply of good men to marry has gone down. Likewise, the supply of good women to marry has gone down due to pregnancy, and to a greater degree than the supply of good men (because men do not get pregnant, and because women tend not to care as much if a man has already conceived a child, and because it tends to be a select group of men who do a lot of the conceiving with multiple women).

  6. 6 Wintery Knight August 21, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    What surprised me about that thread was even when the celibate guy came forward and said similar things that they turned on him too. How much of this is just women wanting to be happy without caring about what men want? That men should have to give up their lives and not ask for anything in return, and women should be free to make themselves happy at any and every moment however they want?

  7. 7 Ilíon August 21, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    WK:Drew, what did you think of the comments from the other people in the thread that basically dismissed his concerns with a sanctimonious attitude, calling him a weakling and a whiner?

    Really? Who did that? Are you sure you’re not letting your fellowship, such as it is, in the “MRV” color your understanding of what was said?

    Asher is immoral; he freely chooses to use others, and himself, as mere things, as a mere end to getting his rocks off. Like so many in in the “MRV,” he is lying to himself, and to anyone who will listen, about what he wants … and then using his whine about the difficulty of finding a “good woman” — which he assuredly does not want — as an excuse to use women as masturbation machines.


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